Story behind the Absorbtion runes - Guild Wars Forums

lg5000 · Jun 17, 2006, 10:53 PM // 22:53

Once in a while, we all come across the warrior who's outfitted his or her armor with 4 superior absorbtions, and most of us (well, me) have a laugh at that as absorbtion doesn't stack...

Or so I though, considering I ran into such a warrior yesterday and was told that it doesn't say they don't stack anymore.

Took a look, and sure enough, while all other runes say that they don't stack, the absorbtion ones dont.

My question now... do they really stack or is that one of those cases where the description is wrong?

Kaguya · Jun 17, 2006, 10:57 PM // 22:57

Absorbtion runes do not stack. Only the best one matters, all the others are null and void.

Bane of Worlds · Jun 17, 2006, 11:13 PM // 23:13

sup absorption runes do not stack with your sup ab runes but will stack with knight's/ascalon armor and shields

mtm · Jun 18, 2006, 12:19 AM // 00:19

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Originally Posted by lg5000

Or so I though, considering I ran into such a warrior yesterday and was told that it doesn't say they don't stack anymore.

The rune description haven't changed. They never had "non-stacking" in the description.

RPG PLAYER · Jun 18, 2006, 12:28 AM // 00:28

you are right it never said that it is or isn't stackable

GreatLich · Jun 18, 2006, 12:35 AM // 00:35

Nothing more needs to be said really, however I had a thought...

No two runes of the same type have ever stacked. However, as has been said, absorption runes DO stack with other forms of absorption (as in, not from runes). Adding the "non-stacking" line to the runes would be technically incorrect. However one could ask the question "Why then, does it say so on the attribute runes?". Since these runes obviously don't stack with same runes, they DO stack with every other form of attribute raising (items/mods/skills); and those all don't explicitly say they stack, except for the attribute hats.

titan0987 · Jun 18, 2006, 12:42 AM // 00:42

Crap, I never knew that, I got like 3 runes in my armor.. shit... thanks for pointing that out

Zui · Jun 18, 2006, 12:55 AM // 00:55

No, they don't stack. Anyone who says they do is an idiot. However, anyone who says Knights/Ascalon armor stacks with other peices is an even bigger idiot...

AW Lore · Jun 18, 2006, 12:57 AM // 00:57

one of my guildies made a field test with that, and found that placing 5 superior runes dont stack.

lg5000 · Jun 18, 2006, 01:05 AM // 01:05

Ah right, thanks for the explanation on the wording there GreatLich, that actually makes sense.

Taurus · Jun 18, 2006, 01:07 AM // 01:07

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Originally Posted by Zui

No, they don't stack. Anyone who says they do is an idiot. However, anyone who says Knights/Ascalon armor stacks with other peices is an even bigger idiot...

Dont go calling people idiots without testing things out first.
First get a friend/guildmate to do a scrimmage with your warrior vs his elementalist. Bring a full non-knight set except for the boots, bring knight boots and any other boots that doest carry armor reduction.

The only skill that the ele should bring for the scrimmage is lightining strike, can be at max attributes, doesnt matter, the warrior can bring some healing spells like hal signet or Monk skills.
Now knowing that spells hits you in the CHEST bodypart ONLY ( you can test it out in this same scrimmage), let your elementalist friend hit you a couple of times with lightning strike, some hits while wearing knight boots and some hits without that.
You will see the damage difference, exact 2 points more than the hits with knight boots.

There you go, its stupid but its true, knight armor -2 base damage reduction stacks for the whole body, no matter where you use it.

Edit:Thx for pointing that out for me Avarre, oh well, goes as an explanation to others anyway, I see a lot of people saying the opposite.

Avarre · Jun 18, 2006, 01:16 AM // 01:16

Uhh? He's saying knight boots don't stack with other knight pieces -> you can't wear 2 pieces of knight armor to get -4. You're talking about the global absorb mod.

Hockster · Jun 18, 2006, 02:44 AM // 02:44

The recent patch lists an updrager to Knights/Ascalon armor without giving details. Would be very interesting to see if the global reduction has been fixed.

Maria The Princess · Jun 18, 2006, 06:12 AM // 06:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by lg5000

Once in a while, we all come across the warrior who's outfitted his or her armor with 4 superior absorbtions, and most of us (well, me) have a laugh at that as absorbtion doesn't stack...

Or so I though, considering I ran into such a warrior yesterday and was told that it doesn't say they don't stack anymore.

Took a look, and sure enough, while all other runes say that they don't stack, the absorbtion ones dont.

My question now... do they really stack or is that one of those cases where the description is wrong?

CONGRADULATIONS

YOU HAVE JUST OPENED THE 1000TH THREAD ABOUT THAT SUBJECT

Helios · Jun 18, 2006, 06:26 AM // 06:26

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Originally Posted by Hockster

The recent patch lists an updrager to Knights/Ascalon armor without giving details. Would be very interesting to see if the global reduction has been fixed.

It changed Knights from 80+10vs phys to 80+20 vs phys.

On another note, this is an old subject and has been tested and confirmed so many times. Close it please.

Manic Smile · Jun 19, 2006, 05:20 AM // 05:20

seriously...the only rumor more annoying is the OH NOES! healing makes my minnions degen faster...people...READ THE FORUMS FIRST...like for a month, then post.

Arknow · Jun 19, 2006, 05:28 AM // 05:28

ive been reading for 6 months still havent gotten past page 4~

Manic Smile · Jun 19, 2006, 06:47 AM // 06:47

The trick is not to read all the crap...open it figure out if it's worth reading...yata.

It's not hard to get a "feel" for the forums and what's real in game.

Jun 17, 2006, 10:53 PM // 22:53	#1
lg5000 Jungle Guide Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australia	Story behind the Absorbtion runes Once in a while, we all come across the warrior who's outfitted his or her armor with 4 superior absorbtions, and most of us (well, me) have a laugh at that as absorbtion doesn't stack... Or so I though, considering I ran into such a warrior yesterday and was told that it doesn't say they don't stack anymore. Took a look, and sure enough, while all other runes say that they don't stack, the absorbtion ones dont. My question now... do they really stack or is that one of those cases where the description is wrong?

Jun 17, 2006, 10:57 PM // 22:57	#2
Kaguya Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Moon Profession: Mo/	Absorbtion runes do not stack. Only the best one matters, all the others are null and void.

Jun 17, 2006, 11:13 PM // 23:13	#3
Bane of Worlds Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Meadow Profession: Rt/	sup absorption runes do not stack with your sup ab runes but will stack with knight's/ascalon armor and shields

Jun 18, 2006, 12:28 AM // 00:28	#5
RPG PLAYER Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jun 2006	you are right it never said that it is or isn't stackable

Jun 18, 2006, 12:35 AM // 00:35	#6
GreatLich Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Aug 2005	Nothing more needs to be said really, however I had a thought... No two runes of the same type have ever stacked. However, as has been said, absorption runes DO stack with other forms of absorption (as in, not from runes). Adding the "non-stacking" line to the runes would be technically incorrect. However one could ask the question "Why then, does it say so on the attribute runes?". Since these runes obviously don't stack with same runes, they DO stack with every other form of attribute raising (items/mods/skills); and those all don't explicitly say they stack, except for the attribute hats.

Jun 18, 2006, 12:42 AM // 00:42	#7
titan0987 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Houston, TX Guild: Siege Turtles	Crap, I never knew that, I got like 3 runes in my armor.. shit... thanks for pointing that out

Jun 18, 2006, 12:55 AM // 00:55	#8
Zui Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: The Benecia Renovatio [RenO] Profession: Mo/	No, they don't stack. Anyone who says they do is an idiot. However, anyone who says Knights/Ascalon armor stacks with other peices is an even bigger idiot...

Jun 18, 2006, 12:57 AM // 00:57	#9
AW Lore Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2006 Guild: Ancient Warriors Gaming Clan Profession: W/Mo	one of my guildies made a field test with that, and found that placing 5 superior runes dont stack.

Jun 18, 2006, 01:05 AM // 01:05	#10
lg5000 Jungle Guide Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australia	Ah right, thanks for the explanation on the wording there GreatLich, that actually makes sense.

Jun 18, 2006, 01:16 AM // 01:16	#12
Avarre Bubblegum Patrol Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Singapore Armed Forces	Uhh? He's saying knight boots don't stack with other knight pieces -> you can't wear 2 pieces of knight armor to get -4. You're talking about the global absorb mod.

Jun 18, 2006, 02:44 AM // 02:44	#13
Hockster Banned Join Date: Jul 2005	The recent patch lists an updrager to Knights/Ascalon armor without giving details. Would be very interesting to see if the global reduction has been fixed.

Jun 19, 2006, 05:20 AM // 05:20	#16
Manic Smile Desert Nomad Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hawaii Guild: ----- 15^50[Rare] ---- Alliance: ----- [SMS] -----	seriously...the only rumor more annoying is the OH NOES! healing makes my minnions degen faster...people...READ THE FORUMS FIRST...like for a month, then post.

Jun 19, 2006, 05:28 AM // 05:28	#17
Arknow Academy Page Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Middle of Space, Corner of No and Where Guild: Ell EFF GEE Profession: R/	ive been reading for 6 months still havent gotten past page 4~

Jun 19, 2006, 06:47 AM // 06:47	#18
Manic Smile Desert Nomad Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hawaii Guild: ----- 15^50[Rare] ---- Alliance: ----- [SMS] -----	The trick is not to read all the crap...open it figure out if it's worth reading...yata. It's not hard to get a "feel" for the forums and what's real in game.